View Issue Details

IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0017756phpList 3 applicationAll Otherpublic20-07-15 16:39
Reportergingerling 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version3.0.12 
Target VersionFuture developmentsFixed in Version 
Summary0017756: Sub-categroies, or similar better way to orgnise geography based lists.
DescriptionA .com client has asked if we have "sub-categories" - he is a local political candidate and often emails a very specific group of people by geography.

I have attached a screenshot of his category and list structure and I see where he is coming from.

Once he starts collecting postcodes etc the number of lists in a category could also need categorising.
TagsNo tags attached.

Activities

gingerling

16-07-15 12:34

manager  

gingerling

16-07-15 12:34

manager  

michiel

16-07-15 12:56

manager   ~0056465

that's better done with Attributes.

gingerling

16-07-15 20:55

manager   ~0056475

MM, not sure how that would work. Can you describe how they might organise it? Especially considering we don't have the "send to attribute" plugin thing.

michiel

16-07-15 21:15

manager   ~0056479

well, postcodes is a completely different can of worms. But on the whole, you want to keep information like that on the subscriber profile and not the list profile.

attributes -> describe subscribers
lists -> describe information streams (themes of campaigns).

But yes, this also outlines we need the segmentation plugin.

gingerling

16-07-15 21:20

manager   ~0056480

Cause the geographical information on the lists is for them (and others I have seen in this situation) only collected for sending purposes. In the sense that emails are only relevant to the people in those areas.

I often think of attributes as only "stuff you would use in the mail" like name, even shoe size - stuff that would be used as a placeholder.

I guess street / local authority / polling district COULD be used as an attribute, but I would assume something like Polling district (list) assigned polling station (Attribute)

So you would send an email to Putney south west LIST saying, "don't forget to go to [POLLING STATION] today before 10pm to vote".

Also, the lists are not necessarily things that people would group themselves as, they are things that the list manager groups you as. So someone might know their post code (attribute) but not their polling district (list).

I guess this is above and beyond the confines of this bug, but it's interesting to note that our views differ on this.

michiel

16-07-15 21:31

manager   ~0056482

sure, polling station, local authority can be a list.

postcode could be if you use the area code only:

E1, E2, E3

as soon as you go down to smaller parts, it should be an attribute.

gingerling

17-07-15 08:21

manager   ~0056486

Ok, so, if Polling station and Local Authority and first letters of postcode could be lists (or even should), then the issues stands.

I think this is probably quite specific to geography based lists. There is an auction guy on .com with the same situation, the number of lists in a category gets too high.

I wonder if there is some other way to deal with this? Sub-categories seems a bit complex. Though in WordPress they have parent categories and child categories, organised thus:

Putney
- Putney North
- Putney East
- Putney South
- Putney West

it's a nice system to make them, it's just a dropdown in the category making process. You can even have sub-sub-categories etc (see image)

gingerling

17-07-15 08:21

manager